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sidearm

So what happened to my last post Rasmus?

sidearm

That’s how it starts Joe. Fear mongering you know a lot about. How many families have been ruined by addicts stealing from them? Now many innocents dead from armed robberies, children dead from addicted parents neglect. And again you use the tried and true lie that this problem is racial. It is not, bad choices are made and there needs to be accountability for bad choices. This is how it always starts with you people. This too will end badly and yet you defend it.

Joe King

" you people" I wouldn't expect anything more from you. Yes, drugs hurt, drugs kill, I've never said that. Nor has any of the states that voted it in. What they are saying is its time to take money from the police and the jail system. Punishment isn't working. They need help. Put that money in drug treatment centers. That is the only way to help them. Sitting in jail or being shot by the police isn't helping them. Treatment centers....that is the answer and the people voted it in. Please listen to the will of the people...that's how democracy works...

sidearm

Defund the police? You think that is the will of the American people. Yes they need help but they never want help until they are caught. Treatment only works when people want to change. Grow up joe, take off the rosy glasses and admit you hate the police. How many are shot by the police Joe? More fear mongering and utopian drivel and yes I meant you people like you who always blame the police, the system but never the criminal. How WOKE of you. Are you an Antifa fan too, you know the law breakers that Kamala Harris donated money to so they could make bail.

Joe King

Sidearm, a little extreme much? Yes, defund the police. Since drug abusers are not going to jail and to treatment centers it only makes sense. Fund more social workers and drug intervention officers instead of police. Fix the problem instead of just locking them up. Where do you get i hate cops? Some of my best friends are cops...but I do hate bad cops...the trouble is you can’t tell the difference between good cops and bad cops...especially since the good cops don’t say or do anything...like what he had in Elkhart...2 people beat a handcuffed person for spitting, in the holding center under full view of the camera...while 2 others didn’t intervene or report the other officers...hence we have 4 bad cops and not 2... but they are the minority right? Just a few bad apples? I support police, but I no longer give them free range...and why can’t you want better police tactics while still speaking about about the abuse and racist cops like the ones that murdered George Floyd? We want them to and trust them to do better...but jeesh..such an extreme view you seem to have

Joe King

https://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

sidearm

The fact that you try to condone this speaks volumes about your character.

Joe King

No body like abortion....what a stupid thing to say. You have no ideal how hard the decision is to women and married couples. But the fact the medical procedure is available and legal gives them a choice. Banning abortion won’t stop it, it just makes it safe. The fact you think a rape victim has no choice or in the case of incest the daughter should carry it to term, or if the pregnancy may kill the mother speaks volumes about your character. Why do you think it’s right to control a woman’s body? Why aren’t vasectomies mandatory for boys? It’s reversible....oh, it’s all about control...just for woman...this has been decided by the Supreme Court back in the 70s...move along...

sidearm

So Rev. Alan Griffin lets talk about abortion. When Roe v Wade made it legal in all the states it was supported by Dems that said it would be safe and rare. Now, it is not so rare and it is supported by Dems to allow partial birth abortions, killing of a viable human being. Like many of Democrats policy it started as a good idea but extreme minorities in the party took it way to far. Many states have legalized pot which has lead to less incarceration of many. A good idea. Now in Oregon not only is pot legal but meth, cocaine and heroin are legal in small amounts. Good ideas taken to the extreme by your party will have horrible effects on our society. So Rev, what’s next on the list for your party to ruin? Maybe you can do a sermon on partial birth abortion that your party supports but I am certain your Jesus does not.

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Joe King

Please get your facts straight. It doesn't allow "dems" to do this . It allows doctors and medical professionals to do this. Also of note, in addition to blocking and banning abortions, the GOP also do away with sex education, birth control education and supplies, planned parent hood for pregnancy test, and even putting restrictions on the "day after" pill. etc. Fewer abortions happen during Democratic Control compared to Republican control...facts....look it up...Just like gun control, its a slippery slope..right? what's next? Are they going to force woman in hospitals to give birth? What about forcing men to pay for child support starting the day of conception? What about mandating vasectomies for boys at age of 12? They are reversible, so when someone gets married they can get it reversed? Oh wait, we don't want politicians telling men how to control their body.....

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sidearm

As usual you are delusional. No comment on Oregon making hard drugs legal? How typical of you, no way to spin that?

sidearm

By the way Joe, facts are not yours or mine,they are just facts. If I unintentionally write something not factual it will be edited. So just what facts are not straight? You doubling down on partial birth abortions is horrendous at it’s core. You can’t deny the hard drugs becoming legal in Oregon and that’s where it starts. It will happen in other states soon as the liberal states fight to be the most liberal. This is just a forgone conclusion. It is your party, own it.

Joe King

They are decriminalizing small amounts and instead of sending them to jail, they are sending them to drug treatment. They are not getting any help in jail, just repeat...in treatment centers they can get treatment and care...please don’t confuse users with dealers. It’s shown that most petty drug crimes affect minorities...when the minority is the majority in jail, that is a problem....they are using more, they are targeted. Now, they can get the help and treatment they need and not just punishment. Just more fear mongering on your part.

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